Harold A Motz

Military

Object Number - UPL 21799 - Lt. Harold (Scotty) Motz, probably taken late 1943 or early 1944. unknown location

Harold Motz served as a navigator with the 708th squadron, 447th Bomb Group, 3rd Air Division, 8th Air Force and was based at Rattlesden, England -- about 50 miles east of Cambridge.

The story Harold told about his enlistment was that he and a group of friends had a pact: if one of them was drafted, the others in the group would volunteer. As it came to pass, when it happened, the one who was drafted spent the war stationed in the United States while the others were sent overseas.

One story told by Harold's wife after his death was that in the spring of 1944 when Harold was navigator on a flight ferrying B-17s to Prestwick, Scotland, a decoy beacon had been set up by the Germans. Some of the planes in the ferrying group followed the decoy. Harold insisted that was not correct and the pilot followed his route instead. Their plane made it to Scotland while the planes taking the other course never arrived.

Harold completed his combat tour of 35 missions with the 8th Air Force and was transferred to the Pacific, where he served with the Air Transport Command. He was released from active service on October 12, 1945.

Harold Motz and Dorothy Rita Dickson were married on August 17, 1946.
They raised a family in Detroit, Michigan where Harold worked as an engineer in the auto industry.

Harold died in 1995, survived by his wife Dorothy, three children, and (at the time of his death) four grandchildren.

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Units served with

The insignia of the 447th Bomb Group.
  • Unit Hierarchy: Group
  • Air Force: Eighth Air Force
  • Type Category: Bombardment

People

  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: First Lieutenant
  • Role/Job: Co-Pilot
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Service Numbers: 35652655
  • Highest Rank: Technical Sergeant (2nd Grade)
  • Role/Job: Top Turret Gunner
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: Technical Sergeant (2nd Grade)
  • Role/Job: waist gunner
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: Lieutenant Colonel
  • Role/Job: Bombardier, Pilot, Comptroller
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Service Numbers: 37536427
  • Highest Rank: Staff Sergeant
  • Role/Job: Lower Ball Turret Gunner/Waist Gunner

Aircraft

  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Nicknames: Due Back
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Nicknames: Blanco Diablo
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Nicknames: Swanee Pride
  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Nicknames: Ground Pounder
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron
  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Nicknames: Shack Happy
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 708th Bomb Squadron

Missions

  • Date: 19 July 1944
  • Official Description: More than 1,100 Heavy Bombers, operating in 5 forces, attack targets in Germany, including 2 plants producing hydrogen peroxide (an ingredient in V-weapon fuels), a chemical plant, 2 aircraft factories, 4 ball bearing plants, 6 Marshalling Yards, 4...

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Events

Event Location Date Description

Born

Detroit, MI, USA 1922-05-11

Other

Graduated from the Army Air Forces Navigation School

San Marcos, TX, USA 1944-03-16 - 1944-03-18 Graduated from Army Air Forces Navigation School, San Marcos Army Air Field, class 44-4

Other

Married Dorothy Rita Dickson

Detroit, MI, USA 1946-08-17

Died

Warren, MI, USA 1995-08-12

Buried

Ypsilanti, MI, USA https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Motz&GSfn=Harold&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=24&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=69662897&df=all&

Revisions

Date7 Dec 2019 23:38:53
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Timothy Motz

Date7 Dec 2019 23:31:41
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Timothy Motz

Date13 Apr 2017 22:08:06
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Timothy Motz

Date2 Feb 2017 20:30:45
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Timothy Motz

Date2 Feb 2017 20:29:43
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Timothy Motz

Date2 Feb 2017 18:47:46
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Timothy Motz

Date15 Jan 2017 21:43:00
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Biography updated by Timothy Motz

Date3 Nov 2016 12:53:10
ContributorLucy May
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Correspondence with Timothy Motz
Also: http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=69662897

Date3 Nov 2016 11:48:16
ContributorLucy May
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Added associations to aircraft and missions from research document sent through to the American Air Museum by Timothy Motz.

Date3 Oct 2016 02:30:51
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Timothy Motz, 2016

Date13 May 2016 18:01:31
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Timothy Motz from crew photo of Harold Motz

Date13 May 2016 17:15:56
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Timothy Motz from info on 447bg.com

Date13 May 2016 17:14:36
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Timothy Motz from info on 447bg.com

Date13 May 2016 17:08:23
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Timothy Motz

Date13 May 2016 15:56:46
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Timothy Motz

Date13 May 2016 15:44:15
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Timothy Motz

Date4 May 2016 17:42:12
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Timothy Motz

Date3 May 2016 16:49:00
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Timothy Motz

Date27 Sep 2014 18:11:58
ContributorAAM
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Drawn from the records of the National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force, Savannah, Georgia / Unit History Roster as of 01 August 1945

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