42-31582 Ol Scrapiron

media-30753.jpeg UPL 30753 Captain Abel Winfield Dahlgran, 447th Bomb Group and his crew at Rattlesden. Winfiled is on front row, left. Charles D Taylor collection

Associated Old Scrapiron, and two members of the crew after taking to Martin and Delena Merenda (family of Russell T Hatchett) who have a copy of this photo

Object Number - UPL 30753 - Captain Abel Winfield Dahlgran, 447th Bomb Group and his crew at Rattlesden. Winfiled is on front row, left.

Delivered Cheyenne 26/11/43; Paine Fd 28/11/43; Toledo 1/12/43; Felts Fd 4/12/43; Gt falls 5/12/43; Cheyenne 7/12/43; Kearney 19/12/43; Detroit 8/1/44; Montreal 10/1/44; Presque 12/1/44; Assigned 711BS/447BG Rattlesden 23/1/44.



Missing in Action Holzwickede 23/3/45 with Chas Bruckman, Ivan Gerwig, John Gorman, Ed Blattner, Tom Iveans, John Collette, Carlton Highley (8 Killed in Action); Edmund Shibble, Byron Schlag (2 Returned to Duty); force landed continent.

Missing Air Crew Report 13617.

Salvaged 8/4/45. OL' SCRAPIRON.



Brief History:

“Aircraft No. 42-31582, a B-17G-10-BO, was completed at Boeing Seattle plant on Thanksgiving, 1943. Records indicate that it was assigned to the 447th on 23 January 1944, but for reasons unknown it appears to not to have flown in combat until June. No. 582 flew a total of 63 combat missions. No photographs of 42-31582 have been positively identified.”



“Ol’Scrapirons” Last mission and unfortunate ending:

As was the general standard, a crew member could go home after they completed 25 missions. Although this number varied somewhat based on the needs at the time. Thank God Tom Hatchett and the rest of the Dahlgran original crew completed their missions and were able to come home. And it appears the 2nd crew completed their 25 or so missions and went home as well. So it looks like the 3rd crew under the command of pilot Charles H. Bruckman flew the last mission of B-17 “Ol’Scrapiron”.



See below information and excerpt from “History 447th Bomb Group” by Doyle Shields:



“After the bomb run on 23 March 1945, Ol’ Scrapiron dropped from the 4th Bomb Wing formation and joined the 34th Bomb Group formation returning to England from its mission to Geisecke. Near Koblenz, one of the 34th aircraft (43-38971) was struck by flak, losing a wing. The damaged aircraft first rolled into a plane from the 487th, which remained flying before colliding with Ol’ Scrapiron. The plane from the 447th with the Bruckman crew onboard was broken apart at the waist.

Tail gunner Byron Schlag was the only member of the crew able to bail out, after riding the tail section down to 8,000 feet – at times losing consciousness from lack of oxygen. Amazingly, Ed Shibble survived the fall (though sustaining serious injuries), trapped in the ball turret until it broke free of the aircraft as it crashed through some trees. The two gunners were captured. The rest of the crew perished along with the entire crew from the 34th.”



The story about Schlag & Shibble is fascinating, so in Byron Schlags own words…”The Navigator reported they were nearing Koblenz, when all of a sudden I noticed out the corner of my eye, large pieces of aluminum flying by including a piece of engine cowling. Just as I pressed the intercom button to call the pilot, I heard our engineer, the top turret gunner, say: “’Pilot look out—‘at that moment, I experienced the most horrible crash as we were hit. In the moment before losing consciousness, I remember crying out, ‘Lord help me’, then total oblivion. When Byron regained consciousness, he was disoriented and dazed. He was tangled up in his flak suit, his helmet and a belt of ammunition. He headed for the escape hatch, but it was stuck, so he headed for the waist, but saw only a circle of sky. He had always kept his chest pack attached to the harness by one clip, so he snapped the other side of the chute of the harness and sat on the jagged edge of the aft section. He popped the chute and was pulled out of the tail. He only swung a time or two and hit the ground. He was sure all of his crew had died in the crash. He was captured by civilians and had a gun placed to his temple twice, but no one pulled the trigger. He was concerned that the irate civilians would kill him. Fortunately he was turned over to a German Officer and two enlisted men. While traveling in a car to a prisoner of war camp, the Germans spotted something and bailed out to a deep ditch on one side of the car. He dived into the ditch on the other side. They were strafed twice by American fighters. The Germans were killed, Byron Schlags survived. After a week, he was finally rescued by men of Patton’s Third Army. He later found that his ball turret gunner also survived the crash, still in his ball turret. His back was broken, but he was alive. He was in a POW camp and returned to American forces on 13 April.”

Connections

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Units served with

The insignia of the 447th Bomb Group.
  • Unit Hierarchy: Group
  • Air Force: Eighth Air Force
  • Type Category: Bombardment

People

  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 711th Bomb Squadron
  • Service Numbers: Serial Number: T5393 / Service Number: 16135585
  • Highest Rank: Flight Officer
  • Role/Job: Bombardier
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 711th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: Second Lieutenant
  • Role/Job: Pilot
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 711th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: Staff Sergeant
  • Role/Job: Radio Operator
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 711th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: Second Lieutenant
  • Role/Job: Co-Pilot
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 711th Bomb Squadron
  • Highest Rank: Flight Officer
  • Role/Job: Navigator

Places

Missions

  • Date: 10 December 1944
  • Date: 4 December 1944
  • Date: 21 November 1944
  • Date: 26 October 1944

Aircraft

  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Nicknames: Ol Scrapiron
  • Unit: 447th Bomb Group 711th Bomb Squadron
  • Aircraft Type: B-17 Flying Fortress
  • Unit: 34th Bomb Group 18th Bomb Squadron

Events

Event Location Date Description

Other

Failed to Return (FTR)

Germany 23 March 1945

Revisions

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Contributorjmoore43
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Added a unit connection to the 8th AF.

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From "Brief History of S/Sgt. Russell T. Hatchett" - Courtesy of Martin and Delena Merenda, Family of Russell T. Hatchett.

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Contributorjhuck
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John G. Huck, Nephew of Edward Blattner

History of the 447th Bomb Group by Doyle Shields; p. 269

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Contributorjhuck
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Personal files of John G Huck, nephew of Edward Blattner

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Contributorjhuck
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From the files of John G. Huck, nephew of Edward Blattner

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ContributorAAM
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Dave Osborne, B-17 Fortress Master Log / MACR 13617 / Paul Andrews, Project Bits and Pieces, 8th Air Force Roll of Honor database

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