44-23515

media-7213.jpeg UPL 7213 One of the four 'Droopsnoots' at RAF Foulsham. 44-23515 would have been identical. Note radio search aerials above and below nose.

Elint* employed 'Droop snoots' were:
44-23515, 44-23501, 44-23156 and 43-28479. Loaned out to 192 Sqn RAF.

*Elint - Electronic Intelligence gathering.

AAM DB Entry.

Object Number - UPL 7213 - One of the four 'Droopsnoots' at RAF Foulsham. 44-23515 would have been identical. Note radio search aerials above and below nose. Elint* employed...

P-38J field modified to 'Droop Snoot*' configuration and fitted out with equipment and aerials for Elint** work. Detached to 192 Sqn*** RAF for Elint** missions.



* The 'Droop Snoot' field conversion entailed the removal of the nose armament and associated equipment to make room for a prone bombardiers position with the installation of a plexiglass nose, a Norden bombsight, side windows and an emergency hatch. The theory was for a formation of P-38's to drop their bombs on the formation lead 'Droop snoots' signal with the precision of the Norden bombsight ensuring the accuracy of the formations bombing. An idea championed by Lt Col Cass Hough and Lt Col Dan Ostrander.



** Elint - Electronic intelligence, the collection for analysis of electronic signals [radio and radar] from enemy transmissions.



*** 'Between September 1944 and February 1945, USAAF two seat lightnings were attached to the squadron and in November 1944 much time was spent in searching for radio signals from V-2s, though these were later found to be uncontrolled' [V2's had on-board guidance systems].



Failed To RFeturn [FTR], on a secret signals investigation flight. At altitude off the Dutch coast, the aircraft suffered a catastrophic double engine failure. Brink attempted to glide the A/C back to the UK but failed and crashed into the North Sea.

A search was conducted by several A/C from 192 Sqn RAF but nothing other than pieces of wreckage was found. Capt Fred B Brink Jr, 2nd Lt Francis Kunze KIA. 26-10-44. MACR 10665.

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Units served with

The insignia of the 36th Bomb Squadron (Radar Counter Measures).
  • Unit Hierarchy: Squadron
  • Air Force: Eighth Air Force
  • Type Category: Bombardment
  • Unit Hierarchy: Group
  • Air Force: Eighth Air Force
  • Type Category: Bombardment

People

  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 7th Photographic Reconnaissance Group 13th Photographic Reconnaissance Squadron
  • Service Numbers: O-726564
  • Highest Rank: Captain
  • Role/Job: Pilot
  • Military/Civilian/Mascot: Military
  • Nationality: American
  • Unit: 305th Bomb Group 364th Bomb Squadron
  • Service Numbers: O-861683
  • Highest Rank: Second Lieutenant
  • Role/Job: Special Wireless Operator / H2X (Mickey) operator

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Events

Event Location Date Description

Crashed

Failed to Return (FTR) Over Water (OW)

North Sea Off Dutch Coast 26 October 1944 - 26 October 1944 FTR, on a secret signals investigation flight. At altitude off the Dutch coast, the aircraft suffered a catastrophic double engine failure. Brink attempted to glide the A/C back to the UK but failed and crashed into the North Sea. A search was conducted by several A/C from 192 Sqn RAF but nothing other than pieces of wreckage was found. Capt Fred B Brink Jr, 2nd Lt Francis Kunze KIA. 26-10-44. MACR 10665.

Manufactured

Burbank, CA, USA Built by Lockheed as a P-38J.

Delivered

Long Beach, CA, USA Delivered to USAAF.

Other

Field Modified

Langford Lodge, 55-57 De La Warr Rd, Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex TN40 2JE, UK Field modified to 'Droop Snoot*' configuration and fitted out with equipment and aerials for Elint** work.

Other

Assigned

Assigned to 36th Bomb Squadron, 801st Bomb Group, 8AF USAAF.

Other

Detached

Foulsham, Dereham, Norfolk NR20, UK 25 October 1945 Detached to 192 Sqn RAF for Elint** missions.

Other

Transferred

Mt Farm Cottage, Dorchester, Wallingford, Oxfordshire OX10 7PG, UK 25 October 1945 Officialy transferred to 7th PRS, 13th PRG, 8AF USAAF. Detached to 192 Sqn RAF.

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Sources

MACR 10665 / Paul Andrews, Project Bits and Pieces, 8th Air Force Roll of Honor database

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