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VIII Bomber Command 104

27 September 1943

Official description

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Description

The industrial areas of Emden, Germany are the targets for this two-element mission. The first element is a combined force of 141 B-17s despatched from 3rd Bomb Division and include the 94BG (19); 95BG (22); 96BG (21); 100BG (20); 385BG (18); 399BG (20); and 390BG (21). 117 aircraft are effective on the target. 4 aircraft Failed to Return (FTR) 23KIA 18POW. One aircraft returns to Ludlam, UK and crashlands, but is declared Damaged Beyond Repair (DBR) 10RTD. 31 other aircraft are damaged with 8 airmen WIA. The bomber gunners in this element claim 17-6-14 of attacking enemy aircraft.

The second element also attacks the industrial areas of Emden, Germany. The element is a combined force 284 B-17s despatched from 1st Bomb Division and includes the: 91BG (19); 92BG (16); 303BG (19); 305BG (18); 306BG (18); 351BG (18); 351BG (18); 379BG (19); 381BG (19); and 384BG (18). Also included are 3 B-17s from 482BG equipped with H2S radar. This is the first Pathfinder mission led by this type of aircraft. 129 aircraft from this element are effective on the target. 3 aircraft Failed to Return (FTR) 18KIA 16POW. In addition 1 airman is KIA and 9 are WIA in returning aircraft. The bomber gunners in this element claim 15-1-10 of attacking German fighters.

Mission details

1.

Description

DIVERSION

Aircraft type

B-24 Liberator

Notes

Diversion for the raid on Emden, Germany. Recalled because of weather.

Units

  • 392nd Bomb Group

    392nd Bomb Group

    Group
    The 392nd Bomb Group flew B-24 Liberators out of Wendling, Norfolk from August 1943 until April 1945. They were the first Group to be given B-24H Liberators, the first B-24 model that was fitted with a nose turret on the production line, an adaptation...

  • 44th Bomb Group The Flying Eightballs

    44th Bomb Group The Flying Eightballs

    Group
    The 44th Bombardment Group (Heavy) was activated 15-January-1942 at McDill Field, Florida and equipped with B-24Cs. The Group moved to Barksdale Field, Louisiana and acted as a training unit for the 90th 93rd and 98th Bomb Groups and flew anti...

Mission Statistics

Tonnage dropped 0.00
Number of aircraft Sent 24
Number of aircraft Effective 0

2. EMDEN (Primary)

Description

HARBOUR INSTALLATION

Aircraft type

B-17 Flying Fortress

Notes

1 B-17 from 482nd Bomb Group, 813BS was equipped with the H2S equipment and lead this element. Another Pathfinder (PFF) aircraft from 482nd Bomb Group/813BS was assigned to also lead this element, but the equipment malfunctioned before the formation crossed the English coast and the aircraft returned to base.

Mission Statistics

Tonnage dropped 277 X 500GP, 57 X 1000GP, 1,657 X 100 IB
Number of aircraft Sent 284
Number of aircraft Effective 129
Number of aircraft Missing In Action 3
Number of aircraft Damaged 47
Number of people Killed In Action 19
Number of people Wounded in Action 10
Number of people Prisoners of War 14
Enemy aircraft claimed as Destroyed by Bomber Command 15
Enemy aircraft claimed as Probably Destroyed by Bomber Command 1
Enemy aircraft claimed as Damaged by Bomber Command 10

3. EMDEN (Primary)

Description

HARBOUR INSTALLATION

Aircraft type

B-17 Flying Fortress

Notes

2 of 3 H2S equipped B-17s from 482nd Bomb Group lead the first PATHFINDER (Pathfinder (PFF)) mission. This is the first mission for the 482nd Bomb Group. One B-17 from 482nd Bomb Group, 813BS was equipped with the H2S equipment and lead this element. First use of "Pathfinders" (Pathfinder (PFF)) (H2S radar-equipped) in combat operations.

Units

  • 100th Bomb Group

    100th Bomb Group

    Group
    "The Bloody Hundredth", so-called because of a reputation for losing a high number aircraft and crews, flew B-17s from Thorpe Abbotts, Norfolk. Their losses were not the highest of any Eighth Air Force Group but on several occasions the Group lost many...

  • 385th Bomb Group

    385th Bomb Group

    Group
    The 385th Bomb Group, who took the nickname "Van's Valiants" after their first Commanding Officer Col. Elliot Vandevanter, flew B-17s from Great Ashfield, Suffolk. The Group led the famous attack on the Focke-Wolfe aircraft factory at Marienburg on 9...

  • 388th Bomb Group

    388th Bomb Group

    Group
    The 388th Bomb Group flew strategic bombing mission from Knettishall, Suffolk from June 1943 to the end of the war. During this time, though, detachments were sent to Fersfield, Norfolk to conduct Aphrodite missions. In these Aphrodite missions veteran...

  • 390th Bomb Group

    390th Bomb Group

    Group
    The 390th Bomb Group flew B-17 Flying Fortresses from Framlingham, Suffolk, between July 1943 and the end of the war in Europe. The Group was engaged in strategic missions until the invasion of Europe when its role became more of a tactical one. This...

  • 482nd Bomb Group

    482nd Bomb Group

    Group
    The 482nd Bomb Group was a Pathfinder Group, which using radar-equipped aircraft to support bombing missions until March 1944. Aircraft from this Group went ahead of other Bombers and sent information back about the best routes to take and the extent...

  • 94th Bomb Group

    94th Bomb Group

    Group
    Activated 15 June 1942 at MacDill Field, Florida. Initial organization and training at Pendleton Field, Oregon on 29 June 1942; Primary flight training at Davis-Monthan Field in Arizona from 28 Aug. 42 to 31 Oct. 42; then at Biggs Field, El Paso, Texas...

  • 95th Bomb Group

    95th Bomb Group

    Group
    The 95th Bomb Group was the only Eighth Air Force Group to be awarded three Distinguished Unit Citations. The first, shared by all four Bomb Wing Groups, was for the bombing of an aircraft factory under intense enemy fire at Regensburg on 17 August...

  • 96th Bomb Group

    96th Bomb Group

    Group
    The 96th Bomb Group flew B-17 Flying Fortresses to targets across occupied Europe from May 1943 to April 1945. ...

Mission Statistics

Tonnage dropped 1,707 X 500GP 22 X 1000GP, 1,356 X 100 IB
Number of aircraft Sent 142
Number of aircraft Effective 117
Number of aircraft Missing In Action 4
Number of aircraft Damaged Beyond Repair 1
Number of aircraft Damaged 31
Number of people Killed In Action 23
Number of people Wounded in Action 8
Number of people Prisoners of War 18
Number of people Returned To Duty 10
Enemy aircraft claimed as Destroyed by Bomber Command 17
Enemy aircraft claimed as Probably Destroyed by Bomber Command 6
Enemy aircraft claimed as Damaged by Bomber Command 14

Service

People

  • Barclay Beeby

    Military | Captain | Pilot | 388th Bomb Group

  • Charles Bein

    Military | Sergeant (Technician Fourth Grade) | Waist Gunner | 388th Bomb Group
    Shot down 20 December 1943 in B-17 #4231084. Killed in Action (KIA). AM w/ 2 Oak Leaf Cluster

  • Grover Bonsall

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Ball Turret Gunner | 381st Bomb Group
    BTG, Tucker, A. Crew. 381st BG, 534th BS. Credited with one German fighter damaged on the 27 September 1943 mission.

  • Webster Bull

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Pilot | 388th Bomb Group
    Shot down 22 December 1943 in B-17 #4237773 'Full House. ' Plane crashed into North Sea. Killed in Action (KIA). The plane was ditched in the Ijsselmeer, The Netherlands. AM w/ 2 Oak Leaf Cluster / Purple Heart

  • Cecil Clore

    Military | First Lieutenant | Pilot | 381st Bomb Group
    Pilot, Clore crew. "B" Flight Commander. 381st BG, 534th BS, 8th AF. Killed in Action (KIA). Crashed shortly after TO near Hedingham on mission #56 to Kiel, Germany in B-17G #42-31278 'Mix Master'. Originally buried with the entire crew at Cambridge...

  • John Crawbuck

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Right Waist Gunner, Left Waist Gunner | 381st Bomb Group
    LWG, Larson crew. Original member of the Tucker crew. Member of the Hagarty crew. 381st BG, 534th BS, 8th AF. Shot down 11 January 1944 in B-17 #42-3118 'The Green Hornet'. Mission #59 to the aircraft factories at Oschersleben, Germany. Struck by an...

  • George Doyle

    Military | Technical Sergeant (2nd Grade) | Radio Operator | 388th Bomb Group
    Shot down 20 December 1943 in B-17 #4231084. Killed in Action (KIA). PH

  • Robert Folk

    Military | Technical Sergeant | Engineer and Top Turret Gunner | 306th Bomb Group The Reich Wreckers
    Robert Folk married Doris Shaffer on July 4,1943 and four days later joined his B-17 crew and flew to England. On his 11th mission, during the Schweinfurt Raid on Oct 14, 1943 his plane was shot down. He was one of six crewmen that survived. He became...

  • John Gardner

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Tail Gunner | 95th Bomb Group

  • David Holliman

    Military | Technical Sergeant (2nd Grade) | Right Waist Gunner/Flight Engineer - Top Turret Gunner | 388th Bomb Group
    Shot down 20 December 1943 in B-17 #4231084. Killed in Action (KIA). AM w/ 3 Oak Leaf Cluster Flew his first 3 missions (plus 3 aborts) as a waist gunner. Flew the remainder of his tour as Flight Engineer/Top Turret Gunner

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Aircraft

  • 41-24605 Knock-out Dropper

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Assigned 359BS/303BG [BN-R] Bangor 22-Sep-42; Molesworth 22-Oct-42; First 8th Air Force aircraft to complete 50, then 75 missions- 27-Mar-44; with M/Sgt Buford Pafford as crew chief; 1 Base Air Depot, Burtonwood 5-Jun-44; Reconstruction Finance...

  • 42-30193 Hard Luck

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Cheyenne 24/4/43; Sioux City 8/5/43; Smoky Hill 9/6/43; Dow Fd 14/6/43; Assigned 561BS/388BG Knettishall 15/6/43. ...

  • 42-30212 Quarterback

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Cheyenne 29/4/43; Sioux City 14/5/43; Smoky Hill 11/6/43; Dow Fd 16/6/43; Assigned 562BS/388BG Knettishall 17/6/43; transferred Aphrodite project, Missing in Action V-sites, Watten 6/8/44 with Lt Joeseph P Andrecheck & T/Sgt Raymond Healy (2...

  • 42-30454

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Cheyenne 3/6/43; Smoky Hill 14/6/43; Rapid City 19/6/43; Geiger 22/6/43; Smoky Hill 23/6/43; Dow Fd 5/7/43; Assigned 333BS/94BG [TS-B] Rougham 7/7/43; Missing in Action Emden 9/27/43 with Pilot: John Thalman (Killed in Action); Co-pilot:...

  • 42-3111 'The Brass Rail' 'Local Girl'

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Cheyenne 16/2/43; Gore Fd 7/3/43; Assigned 335BS/95BG [OE-T] Alconbury 5/43; THE BRASS RAIL 6 missions. ...

  • 42-5905 Just Ag

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Long Beach 26/4/43; Sioux City 7/5/43; Smoky Hill 9/6/43; Dow Fd 30/6/43; Assigned 561BS/388BG Knettishall 3/7/43; detailed Solignen, 30/11/43 with Paul Kelly, Co-pilot: John Corzette, Navigator: John Wiley, Bombardier: Marion Wiles, Flight...

  • 42-7482 Shack Rat

    B-24 Liberator
    Flew 13 missions with 392nd Bomb Group

Revisions

Date Contributor Update
29 June 2015 21:04:54 Lee8thbuff Changes to event
Sources

Lee Cunningham 29-Jun-2015. Added bomber gunner claims 17-6-14 to 3rd BD element per "The Mighty Eighth War Diary", Roger A. Freeman.

Date Contributor Update
29 June 2015 21:01:37 Lee8thbuff Changes to event
Sources

Lee Cunningham 29-Jun-2015. Corrected statisitics per "The Mighty Eighth War Diary" Roger A. Freeman

Date Contributor Update
29 June 2015 20:56:08 Lee8thbuff Changes to event
Sources

Lee Cunningham 29-Jun-2015. Added bomber gunner claims 15-1-10 to 3BD element statisitics on "The Mighty Eighth War Diary", Roger A. Freeman.

Date Contributor Update
29 June 2015 20:53:04 Lee8thbuff Changes to description
Sources

Lee Cunningham 29-Jun-2015. Added Mission Narrative based on "The Mighty Eighth War Diary", Roger A. Freeman.

Date Contributor Update
13 November 2014 11:41:31 Emily Changes to media associations
Sources

Associated Media based on images associated with missions in Freeman, The Mighty Eighth War Diary.

Date Contributor Update
27 September 2014 18:43:16 AAM AAM ingest
Sources

Lee Cunningham, 8th Air Force missions research database / Stan Bishop's 'Losses of the US 8th and 9th Air Forces', the Combat Chronology of the US Army Air Forces and the work of Roger Freeman including the 'Mighty Eighth War Diary'.

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