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42-38119

B-17 Flying Fortress

Delivered Denver 18/12/43; Kearney 31/12/43; with Albert Jones crash landed base 2/2/44; Written off 4/2/44.

Aircraft flew into ground near Kearney AAF, Nebraska 2 February 1944 because of misjudgment of altitude in early-morning darkness. 6 killed, 4 survived.

Crew
2nd Lieut Albert Jones ; Pilot ; Minor Injiries
2nd Lieut William J Terbeck ; Co-Pilot; Minor Injuries
Sgt Robert R Jacobs ; Engineer; Serious Injuries
Sgt William R Cook ; gunner ;; Serious Injuries

2nd Lieut Elmer L Tully, Jr; Navigator ; Killed in Crash
2nd Lieut Thadeous Kleszcz; bombardier ; Killed in Crash
Sgt Kenneth m Cochrane; Radio Operator ; Killed in Crash
Sgt Gerald C Fitzpatrick ; Gunner ; Killed in Crash
Sgt George h satterlee; Gunner ; Killed in Crash
Sgt Wilbert L Kilby ; Gunner; killed in Crash

(Ref page 678, Vol 2, Fatal Army Air Forces Aviation accidents in the United States, by Anthony JMireles)
42-38119 was NOT a loss in Europe, but 43-38119 was

Your Attachment to this webpage and crew list refer to B-17 43-38119
http://www.americanairmuseum.com/media/34559

Ref UPL 34559
Missing Air Crew Report 8609 – Refers to loss of B-17 43-38119 from 739th Bombardment Squadron, 452nd Bombardment Group on 3 September 1944
Aircraft hit by flak over Guernsey, Channel Islands. No.2 engine in flames, aircraft lost altitude, No.2 engine fell off, No.3 engine propeller feathered. Aircraft ditched in Ditched in the North Sea. Rescue boats were dispatched. No crew were ever found. Presumed drowned.. All 10 crew KiA. No Bodies recovered. MACR 8609
Crew were;
B-17G-80-BO 43-38119
Service Number RANK First Names Last Name DUTY
O-821955 2nd Lieutenant William G CAMPBELL Tail Gunner
O-420830 Major John E CLONTS, Jr Observer
O-688524 Captain Robert C GILG Bombardier
36704378 Staff Sergeant Walter H GOESKE Waist Gunner
37575760 Staff Sergeant James A KREUGER Ball Turret Gunner
O-809656 Captain David T LEWIS, Jr Navigator
O-388619 Lieutenant Colonel Carl L LILES, Jr Co-Pilot
18053649 Technical Sergeant Jerry McGILL Flight Engineer / Top Turret Gunner
O-759292 1st Lieutenant Miles E PARMELY Pilot
31295489 Technical Sergeant William F WALSH Radio Operator / Gunner

Suggest add http://www.americanairmuseum.com/media/44222
Object number UPL 44222 to revised page for 43-38119

Service

Units

  • 452nd Bomb Group

    452nd Bomb Group

    Group
    The 452nd Bomb Group flew B-17 Flying Fortresses from Deopham Green, Norfolk, from January 1944. The air crews hit strategic sites in Germany but also supported the movement of ground forces across Europe after D-Day. On 6 June 1944 itself, the Group...

  • 729th Bomb Squadron

People

  • William Campbell

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Tail Gunner | 452nd Bomb Group

  • John Clonts

    Military | Major | Observer | 452nd Bomb Group
    Shot down 3 September 1944 in A/C #42-38119, Killed in Action (KIA). AM/ PH

  • Robert Gilg

    Military | Captain | Bombardier | 452nd Bomb Group
    Killed in Action (KIA) 3 September 1944 DFC/ AM

  • Walter Goeske

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Waist Gunner | 452nd Bomb Group

  • James Kreuger

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Ball Turret Gunner | 452nd Bomb Group
    Killed in Action (KIA) 3 September 1944 in AC #4238119. AM w/ Oak Leaf Cluster/ PH

  • David Lewis

    Military | Captain | Navigator | 452nd Bomb Group
    Killed in Action (KIA) 3 September 1944 in 42-38119. DFC/ AM w/ Oak Leaf Cluster

  • Carl Liles

    Military | Lieutenant Colonel | Co-Pilot | 482nd Bomb Group
    Killed in Action (KIA) 3 September 1944 in AC #42-38119. Crashed off Channel Islands Missing Air Crew Report #8609. Hit by Flak over Guernsey Island, #2 engine flames, Lost altitude, #2 engine fell, #3 prop feathered. Ditched with no explosion. No...

  • Jerry McGill

    Military | Technical Sergeant | Top Turret Gunner | 452nd Bomb Group

  • Miles Parmely

    Military | First Lieutenant | Pilot | 452nd Bomb Group
    Killed in Action (KIA) 3 September 1944 in A/C 42-38119. Crashed on Channel Islands. AM w/ 2 Oak Leaf Cluster/ PH

  • William Walsh

    Military | Technical Sergeant | Radio Operator | 452nd Bomb Group

Events

Event Location Date
Failed to Return (FTR) France 3 September 1944

Revisions

Date Contributor Update
05 January 2021 17:59:17 David J Barnes Changes to description
Sources

http://www.americanairmuseum.com/media/34559

Ref UPL 34559
Missing Air Crew Report 8609 – Refers to loss of B-17 43-38119 from 739th Bombardment Squadron, 452nd Bombardment Group on 3 September 1944
Aircraft hit by flak over Guernsey, Channel Islands. No.2 engine in flames, aircraft lost altitude, No.2 engine fell off, No.3 engine propeller feathered. Aircraft ditched in Ditched in the North Sea. Rescue boats were dispatched. No crew were ever found. Presumed drowned.. All 10 crew KiA. No Bodies recovered. MACR 8609
Crew were;
B-17G-80-BO 43-38119
Service Number RANK First Names Last Name DUTY
O-821955 2nd Lieutenant William G CAMPBELL Tail Gunner
O-420830 Major John E CLONTS, Jr Observer
O-688524 Captain Robert C GILG Bombardier
36704378 Staff Sergeant Walter H GOESKE Waist Gunner
37575760 Staff Sergeant James A KREUGER Ball Turret Gunner
O-809656 Captain David T LEWIS, Jr Navigator
O-388619 Lieutenant Colonel Carl L LILES, Jr Co-Pilot
18053649 Technical Sergeant Jerry McGILL Flight Engineer / Top Turret Gunner
O-759292 1st Lieutenant Miles E PARMELY Pilot
31295489 Technical Sergeant William F WALSH Radio Operator / Gunner

Suggest add http://www.americanairmuseum.com/media/44222
Object number UPL 44222 to revised page for 43-38119

Date Contributor Update
27 September 2014 18:40:48 AAM AAM ingest
Sources

Dave Osborne, B-17 Fortress Master Log / MACR 8609 / Paul Andrews, Project Bits and Pieces, 8th Air Force Roll of Honor database

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