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42-30257

B-17 Flying Fortress

Delivered Cheyenne 4/5/43; Smoky Hill 14/5/43; Gt Falls 24/5/43; Kearney 29/5/43; Tinker 13/6/43; Dow Fd 16/6/43; Assigned 100BG Thorpe Abbotts 16/6/43; transferred 550BS/385BG [SG-J] Gt Ashfield 17/6/43; Missing in Action Oschersleben 28/7/43 with Bill Robbins, Co-pilot: Floyd Hicks, Navigator: Bill Brick, Bombardier: Irvin Rodemeyer, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Joe McGarry, Radio Operator: Hervin Charest, Ball turret gunner: Bob Daleus, Waist gunner: Walt Edelmann (8 KIA - all washed up on German coast over next few weeks); Waist gunner: Leon Ochs, Tail gunner: Lloyd Atkins (2 Prisoner of War); flak, then mid-air coll with 42-3308 (385BG) ditched North Sea; Missing Air Crew Report 189C. LADY SUSIE II.

Service

Aircraft

  • 42-3308

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Denver 27/5/43; Dow Fd 13/6/43; Assigned 548BS/385BG [GX-M] Gt Ashfield 26/6/43; Missing in Action St Dizier 4/10/43 with Carl Dawurske, Co-pilot: G. A. Reed, Navigator: Frank Bachman, Bombardier: Joe Osterman, Flight engineer/top turret...

  • 42-3316 'Betty Boom' aka 'Big Stinky'

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Denver 6/5/43; Kearney 29/5/43; Assigned 550BS/385BG [SG-F] Gt Ashfield 26/6/43; Missing in Action Warnemunde 28/7/43 with Bill Storr, Co-pilot: Bob Blakely, Navigator: Clinton Weaver, Bombardier: Athel Miller, Flight engineer/top turret...

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Units

  • 385th Bomb Group

    385th Bomb Group

    Group
    The 385th Bomb Group, who took the nickname "Van's Valiants" after their first Commanding Officer Col. Elliot Vandevanter, flew B-17s from Great Ashfield, Suffolk. The Group led the famous attack on the Focke-Wolfe aircraft factory at Marienburg on 9...

  • 548th Bomb Squadron

People

  • Lloyd Atkins

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Tail Gunner | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Prisoner of War (POW). POW

  • William Brick

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Navigator | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Hervin Charest

    Military | Technical Sergeant | Radio Operator / Gunner | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Robert Daleus

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Ball Turret Gunner | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea. Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Walter Edlemann

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Waist Gunner | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Floyd Hicks

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Co-Pilot | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Joseph McGarry

    Military | Technical Sergeant | Top Turret Gunner | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Leon Ochs

    Military | Staff Sergeant | Waist Gunner | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Prisoner of War (POW). POW

  • William Robbins

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Pilot | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

  • Irvin Rodemeyer

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Bombardier | 385th Bomb Group
    Shot down 28 July 1943 in B-17 #42-30257. Plane crashed into North Sea, Killed in Action (KIA).

Places

  • Great Ashfield

    Military site : airfield
    The airfield was built in 1942 by John Laing & Son Ltd. 108,000 tons of concrete was used in its construction, creating a Class 'A' airfield suitable for heavy bombers. The 385th Bomb Group took up residence in the summer of 1943, and remained at the...

  • Thorpe Abbotts

    Military site : airfield
    Home of the 'Bloody Hundredth’, a Bomb Group with a reputation for high casualty rates, Thorpe Abbotts was under USAAF control from June 1943 to the end of the war. Some of the airfield survives today, and the control tower houses the 100th Bomb Group...

Events

Event Location Date
Failed to Return (FTR) Over Water (OW) North Sea 28 July 1943

Revisions

Date Contributor Update
06 November 2021 20:10:29 jmoore43 Changes to aircraft associations
Sources

Added an association to the A/C #42-3308 listed in the A/C description section.

Date Contributor Update
06 November 2021 19:19:54 jmoore43 Changes to description
Sources

Added a space before the words "Tail gunner" in the A/C “Description” to aid clarity.

Date Contributor Update
06 November 2021 19:17:23 jmoore43 Changes to markings
Sources

Corrected a typo in the A/C "Markings" section - "conflict" was misspelled.

Date Contributor Update
16 September 2020 17:32:11 phil marchese Changes to nicknames and markings
Sources

AAM sysnopsis of B-17F-VE 42-5912.
OSBORNE, FORTLOG at 42-5912
FLYING FORTRESS 1936 1945, MARCHESE,
analysis of F-95-BO and mid-product F-VE configurations.

Date Contributor Update
21 September 2016 22:51:21 hermanns Changes to nicknames
Sources

385th BG website

Date Contributor Update
27 September 2014 18:40:28 AAM AAM ingest
Sources

Dave Osborne, B-17 Fortress Master Log / MACR 189 C / Paul Andrews, Project Bits and Pieces, 8th Air Force Roll of Honor database

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